[Marlow]

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the most valuable info you get out of these guys is what they show down. if they're playing aggressively, but for small bets sometimes its worth passing on valuebets or making slightly -EV calls just to see what they're taking some of the wierd lines (like checkraises) with.

Once you see the showdown hand, consider the board and your actions as well as you're perceived image.

Loose and unpredictable opponents are reading your betting patterns and basing their play on that moreso than on their cards or image. By forcing showdowns you can reverse-read your own lines and then use that info to manipulate thier bluffs and folds.

This can of course get very difficult because it'll mean that you may have to do crazy stuff like bluff-screwplay and overbet with monsters - then bluffs. If you can get into the heads of the unpredicatbles you may find them to be as formulaic as the more conventional villains you'll face - they'll just basing the formulas off of different parameters (your betting patterns and the board) than you're used to reading (villain's cards and position).

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Seems like an oversimplification -- if they are thinking players who can adjust to our play in the first place, how could we assume that there's a "formulaic" underpinning to their actions? When we adjust, can't we anticipate that they will just re-adjust, rinse, repeat?

If this is the case, I think that we'd want to find a way to give them bad reads by playing making a few "non-optimal" plays and getting caught on purpose. Then we keep track of what our likely image is and try to exploit going forward.