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lol I meant obv superior in terms of individual talent ie. Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand etc etc. None of the Russia or Croatia players are World Class but are very good (obv) and England had a massive advantage in terms of pure talent available

Its weird with Jol because some managers are much better as Club managers than National one (Eriksson being the obvious example). I think Jol would only work as either the Holland manager or a club team.

I think if England wait until after Euro they can have either Hiddink or Scolari and either oneof those would probably be the best choice for advancing England further in terms of international success

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I'd say the Russians and Croatians are less overrated. But that's just me.
Srsly, If you are English and can somewhat play you're bound to make a bundle simply because the PL is full of international players but wants to pretend to still be English at the core.
Then they are surprised if they "underperform"

Still sad to not see England at the Euros because it's always fun to have them around and English fans are fun (- the morons but they exist for every nation). On the other hand I'm quite happy to see Russia will be playing at the Euros. They had good teams over the last years but always lacked discipline imo and I think if they play to their full potential they'll be exciting to watch.