[Garland]

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even though i think betting the turn is the right play this is a really bad argument. lots of good players told pbob to call the river c/r in the 33 backdoor flush hand he posted in high stakes and they were all just plain wrong.

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Well, obviously not just because a lot of good players said so, but because they had good reasoning to back up the play. Bob's initial claim that the default player won't fold any pair on the turn just doesn't hold water in my book.

Perhaps the adjective "exploitable" is incorrect, but you are giving a free card to your opponent by checking. I don't like doing that.

I didn't know about the 33 hand until you mentioned it, but I can't see calling the river as being "plain wrong", because a strong player will see the two folds and can cheaply exploit (I think I got it right this time) this situation in the future (missed one draw, but represent the other).

Garland