[Matt Flynn]

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The ideal stack would be around 50BB, since you can bring it in for a standard raise, one pot sized bet on the flop and one pot sized bet on the turn to get it allin. You are actually committed after betting the flop, or are you?

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ok this post is sick because it slings right the material we wrote then didn't put into volume 1 (deferring to volume 2). to answer this first part:

not at all. you only commit if it's profitable to do so.


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If you are, doesn't this imply huge problems with cbetting, because when you cbet you promise it all?

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even if you are not committed, you might well c-bet. you get into dangerous territory putting a third of your stack in with the intent of folding to a raise, but the value of c-betting can exceed the cost. we're getting into some of the volume 2 stuff that wouldn't shoehorn into volume 1 here.


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If you aren't (committed) this is great for cbetting, because if they call they know they'll be calling your entire stack, but you only risk half your stack? Is this inherent advantage enough to also cbet with air most of the time?

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absolutely. playing for target sprs for top pair can make your c-bet (with air) more powerful. your c-bet on the flop gets into the range of 1/5 or 1/4 the remaining money, which leaves about a pot-sized bet (or slightly more) behind. that's a stack decision. now you have momentum and stack decision leverage backing your c-bet.


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Why plan commitment if you decide you are not commited with half your stack in on the turn?

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usually you try to avoid putting half your stack in and not being committed.


really good questions here mvd. hope this clarifies enough. gonna be tough opening the kimono further here because 2+2 owns the copyright on volume 2 and it isn't in print yet.