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Old 11-22-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Tournament Deals question

Hi, i have a question about tournament deals.
Is it allowed that only 2 players of 3 make a deal?
The big stack doesnt want a deal, so the 2 small stacks make a deal that the one first eliminated gets the deal amount from the other one. So its 3.price+deal for first eliminated small stack and 2.(or 1.)price-deal for surviving small stack.

In our example 1. 25€ 2. 15€ 3. 5€
Big Stack 12000 Chips wants no Deal. Blinds 100/200.
Small stacks both 1000 Chips, are making the deal that first eliminated gets 5€ from the other one, so they have guaranteed 10€.

Its the same as a side bet between them who survives/gets eliminated first.

Problem is that now both small stacks can play more agressive, before they waited for the other one to be eliminated. In the following agressive All-In Fest the chip leader wanted to eliminate them even with medicore cards. The small stacks had much luck and got back in game, nearly all got same chip amount, so the next deal was all get 15€ but the still slightly leading big-stack denied. After few blinds, both still agressive small stacks go all in, one eliminated (5+5=10€ payout) but the other one is now with 200 chips chip leader. The former big stack got angry did go all -in, got called and the coinflip decided. He got 2. earned 15€ and the winner got (25-5=)20€.
But the player who finished second said, the deal was "unfair", without the deal he would have won.

Are deals allowed between 2 players?
If not, are bets between players allowed who will be eliminated first (which is basically the same as deal making)?

Any sources for Tournament Poker DEAL Rules?
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