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Old 11-18-2007, 07:17 AM
Dromar Dromar is offline
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Default Re: c/c bet line - when to use it

I was just thinking about this in this thread.

paraphrased:
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Villain 1025
Hero 975

Holecards:
9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Preflop
Villain posts SB 5, Hero posts BB 10. Villain raises 20 to 30, Hero calls 20 .

Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] POT: 60

Hero checks, Villain bets 60 ,Hero...

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I think this is a great time to c/c bet. Villain had 100% c-bet rate, and there's a plethora of unmade and weak made hands he'll c-bet here. When the turn comes, your bet will fold out the air, and force villain to fold or pay for his many possible draws. It also helps get us out of the reverse implied-odds situation we would find ourselves in if we elected to call down all the way, as mentioned in OP.

A c/r will also do these things, but will create a few problems:

1.A semibluff 3-bet/raise by villain is much more viable on the flop than on the turn, which causes problems for Hero.

2.If villain chooses to call our c/r, we're in a position where we want to see a cheap showdown because our hand has value, but we can't stand to call bets on the turn or river, especially since we've just bloated the pot. This puts in a very difficult situation, and we're probably going to have to either fold to a bet on the turn or river, or spew chips hoping for a good showdown. A similar difficult situation occurs when we c/c-bet, except that when villain calls our turn bet, we'll already be moving on to the river, making a showdown much more likely to be free/cheaper.
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