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Betting for value with Ace high against multiple opponents? How likely is it that everyone missed the flop and your Ace high is still good?

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Exactly! I read a few of the posts you linked to and I agree that if you are in late position and get bet in to, you should raise. But if you are first to act with two overcards...ahh that is something else.

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Let's try this from the workbook angle...

Post a hand in which you yourself think it would be correct to raise a bet on the flop with just 2 OC's, no straight, flush, or backdoor draws. We'll critique it, and eventually through this process we'll come up with an answer.

Be as specific as possible.(ie Reads, position, an actual board would all be nice.)

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OK I'll bite (as fishes are prone to).

Nano table. Loose opponents PF% 30-50

Hero A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button 2 limpers, bet, call, call, fold, fold, hero raises, blinds folds betters call. 9,5 SB
3 callers + hero

Flop 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
First caller bets, call, call, hero raises.

OK, how do I think? First better must have something, he is the key. The two others are tagging along. He can have a big pair AA-TT but not likely since he didn't cap it preflop. Most likely he has big Broadways like hero or small pair. If he has big broadway ours is most likely as good or better than his. If he has a small pair there is a risk that he will connect with the board. I will try to punish him for that by raising. If he comes back at me with a reraise I'm screwed and will fold. If not I'll take a free card on turn if offered and I don't connect with the board.
Standard play, I know, but this is how I think.

Feel free to tear it apart. I love to learn.