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Old 08-30-2006, 12:38 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

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usually he's expecting you to call your hand here, like say "a pair" or "ace high" or something. this is one of those things that I feel like people always used to do but not so much anymore. saying "show or muck" is fine but might be considered a little rude by some older players. I almost always call my hand in your spot.

--turnipmonster

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That sounds exploitable. You just claim a better hand than what you have (in this situation) and then say you misread the cards if he doesn't muck and you have to show. Especially if you've called down with ace high and you suspect he's on some small pair due to this interplay on the river; "bluffing" him into mucking would be an enormous coup.

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This is an angleshoot. In many rooms, if you induce a muck by miscalling your hand, you will lose the pot. Obviously, people will occasionally make such a miscall purely by accident and they will let that slide but you will usually not get away with it more than once.
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