[[Phill]]

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I love to hate on Phil but I have to admit he makes some bizarre precise reads with not much information that have no logical explaination to me. Not like DN who just guesses every possible hand and occasionally gets it right, Phil seems to be right a lot more than he should be.

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Did you see the WSOP ME footage of DN - he was sick good with his reads. But yeah, Phil has made some great reads on TV - but then you gotta wonder how many misreads arent shown. I remember a few years back when he mucked KK pre in the main event after calling over the cameras to look. The other guy had JJ.

If you havent seen it, Phils play in the HORSE event was hilariously bad. He rates himself one of the words best in all the games then makes a fundamental error in just about every hand shown - including stacking off with a jack in razz to KO him IIRC.

But he does make sick reads - and he does verbally attack players - this has lead to what Gobbo amongst others have realised - what i call the Hellmuth Factor.

It is fear from being shown up and looking bad which means he can pretty much dominate the WSOPs with their weak fields - but when it comes to stuff with better players like the WPTs or various cash games he doesnt do well and most of what he does is advertising for the Hellmuth brand.

Also, watching his stupidly large bets in certain HSP hands this season its clear just how uncomfortable he is when deeper than 30BBs, hence him not turning up to tourneys till an hour or two in.