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Old 07-16-2007, 07:40 AM
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They're very unlikely to give Liddell an instant title shot after beating Jardine. There are two main reasons for this. Rampage might beat Henderson, in which case he will still be champ when Liddell beats Jardine. They aren't going to give him an easy shot against someone he's 0-2 against, even if he's Chuck Liddell. The other reason is that White has stated he wants to give Shogun a title shot if he wins his first fight. Since his first fight is supposed to be in September, that means he gets the next title shot after Rampage/Henderson. Which means they can't give Liddell a shot after Jardine, unless they want him to sit on his ass for 6 months, which is a big waste of a draw.

Obviously Jardine wouldn't get it if he won, with his recent loss to Alexander. The winner of the Tito/Rashad Rematch, and the possible coming of Wanderlei Silva puts other people high up in the contender picture. There are plenty of people he can fight for a title shot if he manages to beat Liddell.

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shogun? wandy? what exactly have they done in the ufc to justify the title-shot if chuck doesn't "deserve" it? combined they have ZERO fights in ufc but apparently they deserve it more than the 6 time lhw titleholder who also have 2 wins over the current hw champ? outrageously humourous..

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You're ignoring the fact that UFC brass respects accomplishments in Pride as much as the UFC, as should you. They fast tracked CroCop to a title shot, even though he blew it, and Nog looks like he's speeding along too. The only reason CroCop didn't get an instant shot is his lack of recognition to UFC fans. They seem prepared to give Fedor an instant shot, and they gave Henderson an instant shot. Number of fights in the UFC only matters from a marketing standpoint, from a skill/accomplishment standpoint, Pride fights are just as good, if not better.

The Shogun situation is similar to the CroCop situation. He doesn't hold the primary belt, nor has he ever held it, and he doesn't have recognition. It's hard to market someone as the #1 LHW in the world when UFC fans haven't heard of him.

Even if they give Liddell a shot after beating Jardine, it's no sillier than giving Hughes a shot after beating Lytle.

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who else is left then? lambert can't beat rashad. rashad can't beat tito and don't deserve a shot until he does.. tito can't beat stamina. forest and gouveia can't beat jardine.. bisping and machida you can barely make a case for, but i don't see why they deserve it anymore than chuck after winning 2 straight against semi-mediocre competition (in bisping's case) and unimpressively (machida's case). so you tell me hoss: WHO "DESERVES" a title-shot if chuck doesn't if he wins against jardine?

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You still seem to be missing a critical point. By the time Liddell finishes off Jardine, Machida will have another fight under his belt. If he wins he'll have beaten the #1 ranked LHW in the world. Along with a 3-0 UFC record, and wins over some big names. Also, his wins were impressive. They just weren't exciting. It's often harder to dominate someone for 3 rounds like he does than it is to knock someone out in a couple of minues.
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