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Old 05-07-2007, 11:12 PM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: Got a little lost

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You're right. But their calling range on the river is much, much smaller than it is on the flop because no draws got there. None. So even if they do put me on next to nothing, how light can they really call? This isn't like hold 'em where you can call with 4th pair on the river if someone does something blatant like this because the last bet is 100 bbs and I could have a wide range of made/combo hands.

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Still, you have to bluff them both. I think you need to have reason to believe they're both fairly nitty (or, multi-tabling and not paying 100% attention). It'll also help if your image is somewhat rockish.

I think you stand to be called by hands as low as AK if your opponents are attentive. I know that if I was in MP with that hand I'd strongly suspect I had the best hand. Whether or not I would actually call is another matter, primarily since at the stakes I play most players wouldn't try to bluff in your spot.

What were the stakes in this hand, btw?

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I think AK could be included in the calling range for the MP guy because he only has about 40 or 50 bbs left and would be getting 3:1. This was PLO 50 at a very passive Bodog table (been playing there because I have been sportsbetting a good bit lately but don't have enough on there to play PLO100 or 200). But there's no way the guy with 100bbs calls with AK imo. I think AQ, Q9, A9 are more at the bottom of his range (maybe a differnt two pair if he picked them up on the turn or river).

I thought this hand was interesting because of how deep it was and because of what a calling range might typically be on the river.

If you were the EP guy could you fire on that river? I clearly don't have a made hand but could definitely have a combo/two pair hand which could easily be at the bottom of my calling range.
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