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I lost interest in this thread yesterday. I just stated the truth and of course have emails to back it up.

What got me to post was his attitude towards me when I tried to collect what we agreed on. It wasn't a big deal until he started acting like I was the bad guy for bothering him for money. It sounded to me just like the way he is treating OP in this thread.

Alobar said it best and this is the best post in the thread IMO:

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dude, you effed this one up. Quit the stupid excuse making and the "I dont care what you think, I have people that can vouche for me, blah blah blah" stuff.

Be a man, admit you screwed this up, stop making excuses, and learn from the mistake like a mature person would. You'll come off waaaaaaaay better than the way you are now. It's ok to make mistakes and screw stuff up, thats how most people learn. Just dont be one of those idiots that thinks their [censored] dont stink and they are never wrong, and who in the face of overwhelming criticism think its everyone else who is being retarded or out of line or wrong.



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Thats how I feel. Treat people good. Tell them the truth if you can't come up with the agreed upon money.

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As you have already noted and I have concurred with, nobody disagrees that what you alleged occurred would be frustrating and shake your confidence in the parties involved. Also, nobody but a complete idiot would try to support the antithesis of the Golden Rule. The problem here is about process, format, substantiated accusations, and inflicting harm in the public domain that can have unforeseen consequences that could potentially be disproportionate to the alleged wrongdoing and therefore undeserved. If you response to this is some cavalier variation on the "you get what's coming to you" just save it. This camp-fire wisdom has already infected this thread.

Money gets made when dispute resolution is conducted in proper forums with the assistance of neutral parties. Not taking a dump in front of thousands so they can fling it around in every which direction. Attempting to essentially blacklist a person on the basis of the conduct alleged here is excessive. This may be more clear to me then others because Kyle has a 800 credit score with me personally. Still, the issues this type of thread raises should be of concern to everyone.