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Old 02-03-2007, 01:23 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep

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Does he really think to himself (with QQ or AJ or JT or some-such) "okay, no matter what he bets i'm pushing, b/c i really want to get 150bbs in on this board."

I can understand if i bet smallish and he saw it, a lightbulb goes off and he starts to put me on AK or an a crap pair or something, but he didn't even have time to see that i bet small-ish.

Surf

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if i didnt want to call a c/r on this board, id probably check behind and be content to call a riv bet or value bet if he checks behind. if i bet this, with any semblance of a hand, and villain puts it in, im beating them into the pot.

the exception would have to be people who love to just call down with something like 99, QJ, QQ, 87, etc. but when they push here its 88, 55, or JJ. those people are rare.

on the turn after you bet, you must call 375 to win ~1230.So you need ~30% equity vs his range; clearly, if his range is just sets, your equity does not meet this (2 outs not good enough!) but even if you throw in like 56, 86 (2paired things on you) you have decent calling equity.. and if he ever has QQ, KK, Jx, 87, HH, air, w/e. this is an easy easy call.

so to answer your question, does he really think those hands are worth pushing, universially "sure." Of course, if those villains know your hand, they probably wouldnt make the same move (although some morons may) but since they dont know your hand, and can only guess at a handrange, then yes, those hands are worth pushing
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