[bernie]

You weren't the only one in this thread championing the 'implied odds' line.

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It was more speculation about the fact that, with two raisers PF, a flush would pay off well.

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It might not. These aren't 2 lagtards. They're described as solid and conventional. You may put in alot to get there, and then not get paid off much when you hit at all. If at all. You may also only have 1 caller by the time you make your hand. So you have to think how much, 'effectively', you're going to put in here against how much you will make. It's really not likely going to be that much.

AJs is closer to a call, but I can still see a fold here.

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