Thread: 30/60 turn spot
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 turn spot

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I raise AcTc in HJ, HU w/ bb, flop 96c5c.

He c/c.

Turn is offsuit 7. (9657 board). He c/r.

I b/3bet. spew? plan for hand?

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why did you bet the turn?

3betting is amazingly bad.

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Let me explain.

When he calls the flop on this board, he either has (a) a pair (b) a club draw (c) a gutshot or (d) nothing. When the turn card comes, he still has all of these things except for (c). It is quite possible that he is bluffing with something dumb like QT on this turn, but if he is, you have the best hand and have him drawing near dead. Let him barrel away. The only thing that happens when you 3bet the turn is that he either folds a worse hand or caps it with a straight. This is basically what happens when you bet, too. Check and take the free card.

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PokerBob--

Pairs sometimes fold. Club draws always call. Many of his nothing hands are drawing substantially live against us.

In particular, if you disagree that pairs sometimes fold, you cannot dispute that he will have sometimes made very thin preflop/flop calls with nothing hands we don't dominate. If you don't disagree that pairs sometimes fold--and I've played with calling stations of every stripe and basically all of them fold some pairs here--then a bet is mandatory.

--Nate
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