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lol what a dumb pole

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I agree. I was saddened to have to ask the question, since I thought the answer should be obvious, but discussions in other threads have alerted me to the fact that some people are more interested in "discussion" of the actual *facts* of the status quo and don't want to be bothered *thinking* about any consequences, ramifications, moral implications, etc.