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Old 10-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: why does this forum care so much about religion

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Are you really basing your whole argument on a quote by Einstein? The model's "ACTUAL MEANING" is not determined by observable predictions.

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Um, what? Yes, actually it is.

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Its meaning IN RELATION TO PHYSICS (observable pheneomena) is determined by the observations. The equation itself CAN STILL HAVE ACTUAL MEANING.

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No, that's only subjective (definitional) meaning. If there is no reference to reality then the meaning is only subjective.

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This is what mathematical definitions are for. Wow, how can an entire subject (of which nearly all of the hard sciences are based on) be based on concepts that are only SUBJECTIVELY MEANINGFUL??

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Models are actually meaningful in that they are falsifiable and predictive. Math itself is only subjectively meaningful.

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One does not have to observe something for it to be falsifiable. You can think without your eyeball.

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Of course, based on prior observation and sensory experience. It is pretty obvious that if you were completely deprived of sensory input from birth, you would not have any actually meaningful thoughts. (Or, probably, any consciousness at all.)
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