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Old 08-29-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Questionable Out of Turn ruling at the Taj 12:15 Tourn. last Tuesday

Was playing the ~ 90 man $65 12:15 tournament at the Taj last week and ran into a weird situation. I'd been playing tight and still had most of my initial stack left - say about t4500 I think.

I'm UTG and pick up K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] - guy in MP announces "raise" before I do anything and then the dealer notifies him I still haven't acted (as I remember, the guy in UTG+1 had just got up and was skipping the hand I think and threw his cards away before I did which is prolly why this other guy acted out of turn I guess). Anyway, obv. I wanted to raise and then the dealer said whatever I did he'd have to raise. The guy called for the floor and most of the table said that what dealer said was incorrect and that I should play the hand like I normally would. It took awhile for the floor to come over so I acted and said "raise". I guess I could have waited but I just raised thinking that this guy could just call. Anyway, floor guy comes over, confirms that guy has to raise (guy goes nuts), the guy's obviously pissed (we chatted about it and I told him I didn't care and would just let him call no worries, but floor would not allow it so he had to raise which put him almost all in). Flop was AKx and we just went all in and he shows AJo. I hit another king and rivered quads which essentially knocked him out.

Anyway, I spoke with guys at the Borgata tournament about it the next day and a lot of people seemed to think that the floor guy was incorrect and this guy either didn't have to raise my raise or that we could have worked it out between us? In retrospect I really should have waited til the floor came but it was just a weird situation and dealer and another guy at table were saying I should just do what I would have done normally in the situation. In retrospect I wish I hadn't bc I was not angling (guy was pissed at situation but said I was cool about whole thing) - since I rivered quads I think i could have just called and let him call/raise and would have potentially tripled up if blinds came along but whatever.

What is the real rule? Thx!!

Brag: ended up FT-ing it and finishing 6th!

Beat: doubled my stack with the help of a questionable ruling but what can I do? (was this the correct ruling?)
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