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Old 10-30-2007, 05:36 PM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default Re: Pooh-Bah post: Level 0 exploitation

You're confusing how we think when coming up with a hand range to call an open shove with and how we should think of somebody who 3-bets first hand.

These are not the same types of players. The player that 3-bets you is not likely any of the players that shove over it.

I'm kind of confusing myself, but basically I'm saying that it can easily and is often AK, AQ, etc. Just because he's not one of the shoving donks doesn't mean he has a weaker hand, in fact often times the players that shove over the raise first hand have weaker hands than the players that 3-bet you to a normal amount first hand. That is why (though it changes at different buyin levels) the calling range is a little wider than most players expect for first hand shoves from villains.

And I probably haven't played (or maybe ran I don't really know anymore) much better than you the last month or two.

Edited for clarity.
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