[Josh.]

bobbo, yes the hands i meant to leave out are TT, 88, A9, suited 9s. i think they'll often check for pot control. check-raising is hoping he will either bet with full intention of calling a raise (imo unlikely with 0 history and likely not much in the way of a read of hero), or bet with no plan whatsoever then talk himself into calling because hero has a flush draw.

i'd also like to know why you like folding as played. you wrote "basically 3way pot on the flop since i t's a low paired board it's hard to put him on trips, if can have it are you prepared to get stacked off here? I am" which i largely agree with (even though after overcalling on the button there are several hands with a 3 he can have), but where does that breakdown once we've bet and he's raised?

i'm going to sleep, so i'll check in the morning. thanks