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i've been on the [censored] end of kk to aa 4 times now this month in 50k hands and on the good end of it only once. so wtf why are you guys folding kk pf?

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Before this thread gets hijacked into another discussion of when it might be right to fold KK preflop, and why we changed the SSNL FAQ to say that it is usually wrong to fold KK preflop (rather than always wrong), it's worth answering the initial question.

I don't think people are folding KK preflop often. It would help if you state the stakes you play, and the sizes of raises and reraises you make, but I think there is a combination of two factors. First, your sample is only 5 hands, and it's really not much of a surprise to be on the wrong side 4 out of 5 times. Second, many people take different lines with KK and AA than just raising without end preflop. Some players will just call a raise or reraise with KK, figuring that almost all of the money will go in anyway against AA, but that taking a flop will get more value out of QQ or AK or garbage. You have a small amount of evidence that people are more likely to slow down preflop with KK than AA.