[tkkfan]

What is the best place to play 4/8 in Vegas? I know the easy answer is "ever 4/8 game has horrible players", but I'm thinking a few places must stick out. Even if ever 4/8 game is juicy, then whats the best casino to play it at.. AKA cheap rake/good drink service/fast dealers etc..

2nd questions, I understand only a few places offer 8/16 games (Mirage, Bellagio, Wynn, Venetian).. I've heard these games are pretty tough to beat. They mostly have local nits and semi-pro's, no fish/tourists. Anyone disagree and know a 8/16 that can be beat in the long term? I'm from the east coast and play 5-10, 10-20 games and normally crush them, but I heard in Vegas the jump from 4/8 to 8/16 is huge.

Thanks in advance