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Old 11-30-2007, 06:14 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: Is a raise allowed here? Interesting hand scenario

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Here is the action:

Hero UTG: Limp KK for $2

Decent UTG+2: Raise to $15

Mid-position: Goes all-in for $20

3 people in Late position call $20.

I try to go all-in. Dealer says I cannot as $20 all-in didn't double the $15 bet (Or $2 into $15 bet).

I think it's a stupid rule and it's been used before at that club too.

Is this same rule used at AC and Vegas?

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Dealer's and incompetent floor often get this wrong. Had you just called the $20 allin "Decent UTG+2" would only be able to call (or fold of course). IOW the small allin raise doesn't reopen the betting for HIS complete raise. But you are essentially wanting to limp-reraise the first real raise (by UTG+2). That's OK.

I think this stupidity gets mixed in with something I hear often - "you can't check-raise an allin player" (when others aren't allin). Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't; what matters is if there is a complete bet by someone who hasn't acted yet. If there is you can certainly check-raise (even if someone is allin).

~ Rick
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