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Old 12-28-2006, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Entire HH for a $16 on Stars

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TT on J835 board: I hate the turn overcall. Your equity sucks vs. 4-5 opponents. Leading, check-folding or even check-raising if you sense weakness, all would've been better than check-calling in that spot

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You're putting them on a K or 2 pair after the flop gets checked around and the turn gets min bet by the button? I thought it was 50/50 I'm ahead or behind here so I just called and tried to keep the pot small considering I wasn't too confident in my hand. Check/raising is horrible here. I want to make the pot bigger without top pair in a 5 way pot? No thanks. In general, "sensing weakness" in a 4 way pot in a $27 SNG with a min bet and 2 calls is not a great idea.

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QQ on QT4: I personally raise more pf for value, and checking on that flop out of position is horrendous. You can make the argument that it's HU and you are not gonna get any value out of worse hands, but it is even more important to protect your hand when there are 12-18 outs that can really hurt you, especially when the pot is big and you are out of position.

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There is a way bigger chance he'll stack off with JJ or a T than the odds he has TWO clubs AND hits on the turn. I'm not debating the fact he might have ONE club, which is why I would lead a club turn. You're saying his possible holdings are AKcc, AJcc, Axcc, or KJ, or J9 after calling a reraise? I think if you are putting your opponents on a flush draw here more than a T (which he'll normally confidently fold if you lead flop) then you're just seeing monsters for some reason. I almost think a club on the turn would HELP you get value because then the Ac would call a healthy bet on the turn when he's drawing.

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ATo in the BB: I personally push pf, but as played I think lead-calling is better than check-raising.

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Yeah I should've pushed preflop, but what are you hoping will happen if you lead? He'll shove 88? I'd have to say I'd rather lead Tx here than AT just because I'm only scared by a K or Q on the turn.

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AKo on the button: raise Villain's flop donkbet. You are giving him too much credit by calling. He is a fish. >80% of the time they make that minbet with bottom/middle pair or a draw type hand to see where they are, and if you raise they fold. The likelihood that he is lead-raising is way too small to even consider not raising. Even worse is the turn call.. a GREAT card (non-flush non-straight scary overcard) came on the turn so if you are planning to put any more money in you should raise, not call the turn bet considering you will most likely have to call a river bet as well.


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If he has mid pair he's definitely calling (as was demonstrated by his masterful Q high river call ITM). If I'm ahead with AK he'll fold. Trying to bluff donks is, in general, not a good idea. We know he's gonna stack off so why am I raising him when there is a chance I may be behind?

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KQo on the button: pf and flop = wtf?


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See my previous explanation as to why minraising is good. Again when he bets turn I'd call with A high, but there's a chance he has a pair or is even "bluffing with the best hand" by betting Ax no-pair here. if you can't tell, I like to play my hands against donks, rather than "playing them" or whatever you are supposed to do against people that aren't randomly clicking their mouse.

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Endgame was perfect, as expected, though I can see an argument for limping the KT hand 3-handed.

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The more I think about it the more I like a limp with KT there, just because if SB shoves I can confidently call, whereas if I fold, the BB could fold to the SB shove. I actually think raising is the worst option.
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