[Hosehound25]

To answer your question DanJ, Villain has not 3bet me before, had been others. Dmoney, I think I may agree that 4betting may be the worst option here, because as you are saying we are pretty much turning our hand into a bluff I think, pretty much only getting value from a fold. But also, I see the same consequences as you when calling as well. If we call he's taking it down most of the time with a CB, and unless he goes crazy I'm probably not getting paid off if I make a pair. So it seems like the only way I'm getting decent value is by turning my hand into a bluff by shoving over his CB, or by floating him and trying to take it away from him on the turn if he slows down.