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Old 02-08-2007, 04:35 PM
maxtower maxtower is offline
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Default Re: Risk v. Reward in the stock market

......MA50 DJDS Rus1000v Rus2000v S&P
1997 28.70% 37.83% 35.18% 31.78% 33.40%
1998 10.53% 4.33% 15.63% -6.45% 28.60%
1999 -4.20% -4.08% 7.35% -1.49% 21.00%
2000 42.34% 24.86% 7.01% 22.83% -9.10%
2001 22.42% 13.09% -5.59% 14.02% -11.90%
2002 0.03% -3.94% -15.52% -11.43% -22.10%
2003 25.13% 30.16% 30.03% 46.03% 28.70%
2004 16.97% 18.14% 16.49% 22.25% 10.90%
2005 0.73% 3.77% 7.05% 4.71% 4.90%
2006 13.09% 19.56% 22.25% 23.48% 15.80%

cumul. 396.05% 356.93% 283.89% 347.71% 224.52%


Ok, I looked up the data for the last 10 years, and it appears that the S&P 500 was pretty much the worst thing you could have been invested in. I wish I could have gotten data for 20 years, but these are newer indexes. I imagine that over 20-30 years the returns will converge to be fairly similar, with the value funds have a slight edge over the S&P 500.

From left to right my comparison includes, the Mergent Dividend acheivers 50, Dow Jones Div. Select, Russell 1k value, and 2k value, and finally the s&P 500.

What is of most interest to me is that from this chart it appears the dividend indices have lower variance compared to the other indices. There are fewer and smaller negative years. I think there is certainly a reason for this. Dividends can not be fudged, overstated or understated. They are real returns. Given that, it is very difficult for a stock with a healthy dividend to really get punished in the market because there will be a floor at which point a lot of buyers will jump in to take advantage of the outsized dividends. Of course if no one has faith in the future ability to pay, then the price will fall. But compared to a stock which doesn't pay dividends and its clear why there is more variance associated with the non-payers.
The Mergent list only includes companies which increase their dividends every year for at least 10 years. This is also a great benefit because it implies that
1. Earnings are increasing and the business is healthy and stable.
2. When dividends go up, the share price will follow. So you get the return of the actual dividend payment plus the capital gain.

There is a caveat (I think). When you buy dividend heavy stocks in a taxable account, you will have to pay taxes as you go along each year on a lot of your returns, compared to owning a stock which compounds without paying dividends. In the latter case, you'll only pay capital gains taxes once you sell.
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