[raptor517]

VitoT, ever consider the fact that MAYBE the reason they are around so long live is because they play 1/10th the number of hands most of the online guys play? maybe even less? so if u look at it in terms of just yearly staying power, guys like aba or whoever would have been around for probably a full life cycle of a live poker player in just 2-3 years online if you break it down by hands played. its really naive to argue the way you are based on purely length of time being 'around'.

part of the reason the 'live' players can have so much 'pride' and play anyone heads up or whatever and play for the challenge blah blah blah is because they dont see as many hands, and they wont go broke anywhere NEAR as fast playing live in -ev games as if they had the same mentality in the online world.