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[/ QUOTE ]Nope.
A good player has 0% of playing something like K92, someone willing to play with a K showing has much, much higher probability than that. Certainly someone thinking any K looks good, let alone one as a doorcard, is going to "hm" when seeing K93, or whatever.
Yeah, their hole cards are weighted towards wheel cards. But that doesn't mean we can exclude other hands completely, and every time they hold something really horrible we make out like bandits.
Obviously, they're more likely to have wheelcards when showing a high door card than when showing an ace. But that's a fairly trivial point, and I thought it obivous I was talking about different kind of players rather than the same kind of players showing different kind of door cards. And a player willing to play showing a K is far more likely to play K97 than a random player.
So the fact we should take into consideration when thinking about their ranges isn't that they're showing high cards; it's that they're the kind of player willing to go on with a high card showing. And that range isn't wheel cards only, since the type of players willing to do that includes a high proportion of maniacs, and people playing the wrong game.
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[/ QUOTE ]The situation you linked to isn't even a little bit similiar since this is a big multiway pot and two players have shown they will call utterly insane hands with a third one that very well may have something you'd like to knock out.
You also seem to ignore that it's impossible to be in bad shape here, but possible to be in great shape due to someone playing a pair of kings. So from that perspective raising is a freeroll.
There's also the point that for whatever reason these people simply aren't playing anywhere near rationally. What they have shown is that they're willing to call a lot of bets with really bad hands. Which isn't an argument for trying to get them to bluff.