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Travel upstate sometime, you'll see what Noah's talking about, but with lake effect snow to boot!

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when you say 'upstate,' are you talking about westchester county upstate, or like, albany? i have been all over that area and there's not much of anywhere i'd be excited to live. hudson will probably be cool in about ten years. parts of columbia county near the MA border might be ok but only because nothing in MA is remotely affordable.