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Old 07-11-2007, 04:44 PM
Evan Evan is offline
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Default Re: Curiosity: How are you guys doing?

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Honeybadger, I think your confusion is part of the reason my line works. A lot of the time when someone you think is good does something weird looking there's a tendency to not trust them/think they're trying to outplay you. Combine that with the fact that no one wants to have to come back to 2+2 and read about getting bluffed by another poster, you'll get some calls doing stuff like this that you might not normally get, maybe from something like a 7. Also, if I check raise the flop and he has a draw I might really be screwing myself if he decides to play it aggressively. I think there's a lot to be said for controlling the number of bets that can go into the pot when you're out of position.

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Yes, I can see truth in that; although, if I had been behind you with some pair, I would've raised your turn donk bet, folding to a 3 bet, and planning to check behind the river. Is that bad? What would you have done had this happened?

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I would have called a raise. I'm not going to put myself in a spot to fold a showdownable hand here. If I didn't feel I could call a raise I would have checked because the pot is heads up.

I don't think it's a great place to raise with a 5 or 7. If I have an ace I'm calling and I can't really have a worse hand that isn't a draw because I would have folded the flop. Sometimes I'll have a 9 with a draw for a turned 2nd pair, which I'm obviously not folding. If I have a draw with no pair obviously it's a good raise, but I don't think I'd ever play a draw this way because there's too good a chance it's going to end up with a showdown when I'm behind.
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