[john voight]

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You can say his etiquette sucks and he looks like a douche, but you can't really say he hasn't been gambling, that's just not true at all. He has been splashing around a ridiculous amount.

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yeah you're right. But beyond being wrong and bad for the game, I guess I just find his obsession with chops and doing business to be somewhat, I dunno, contradictory to his gamble-y nature.

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shane, I agree with this, as does doyal Obv and possibly Barry. But IMO it is up to teh players (all 9) to decide what is okey and what isn't. I mean poker is pretty arbitrary, and you can spin it to the point where it is a whole new monster (like you say it is here to a certain extent).

The reason I dont have a problem with all this "soft playing" btwn sammy and everyone is it seems to be accepted by the players, and IMO they are the ones who call teh shots.

I too would like to see pots being played the way they should (imo w/o chops, caps, etc..), but if the guys are okey playing this way, I just have to accept it.