Re: KQo losing ground on the turn
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Aaron:
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I'm fine with the turn bet. It gets value out of the potential flush draw and gutshot straight draws that are out there. It also gets value out of a hand like Q9. There's no particular reason to think an ace is out there yet given all the flop coldcalls (which is often an indication of better than a naked A-high compared to if they had just called one bet).
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Is this a limit-based play? Given that the most-likely draws are something plus an ace OC? C'mon. *
*Edit: "charge the flush draw"? By giving them the right odds to call. O rly?
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Value betting is the primary skill of limit hold'em. You are trying to maximize on the small edges that the game allows. You make money if they call with a flush draw.
I don't agree with the premise that the most likely draws are something plus an ace OC. There are lots of gutshots out there, (QJ/QT/JT/87/86/76) plus a number of worse Kx hands (KQ/KJ/KT/K8s), some worse 9x hands (Q9/J9/T9), and flush draw hands.
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