Re: Joe Torre = Dodgers manager
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you do realize it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder to pitch nowadays than it was back then? do some research. it's not about being babied. it's that the job is harder on an individual basis. jeez.
roger clemens must be such a baby because he can barely make it past 5 IP nowadays.
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Hes 45 [censored] years old. he had a 2 year period where he threw 32 complete games and amazingly his arm didn't fall off.
Part of it is that its harder to pitch these days. not wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy harder like you make it out to be. There were a few legit great closers and other managers had to copy what they with there worthless relievers. So now they think a "closer" is a position when its not. Pitcher is a position. If you have Papelbon , Rivera or someone like that fine. But guys who dont have pitchers that good still think they need a closer and a useless pile of crap like Joe Borowski racks up saves.
Managers love the lefty righty [censored] too. It makes sense sometimes (like when a lefty is actually good against lefties) it gets flat out stupid when a manager takes out a good right handed pitcher for an awful lefty to get someone like Garet Anderson out (who actually hits lefties.) Its even funnier when they pinch hit a [censored] lefty against Rivera in place of a good righty even though righties hit rivera better. But ofcourse going lefty righty all day and yanking good pitchers for bad ones is what smart managers do to win games lmao.
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