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Old 11-30-2007, 11:59 AM
jstill jstill is offline
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Default Re: JTs river spot in biggish pot

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you said it yourself that you check the turn like NINETY percent of the time with AQ. thus AQ is practically not in CO's range, thus you should actually fold JT.

c'mon now balla.

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I think even against vmacosta this is a fold no matter what he says, Miles summed up why. AQ, air and TT are way too heavily discounted vs the rest of his range after turn/river action... turn HU and it gets closer, then maybe its a call vs some of u "super lags"... have to take ur word for it

to efficacy I dont think bluffing AQ on the end after u bet the turn and got it HU is terrible, but its -EV vs unknowns id say, vs a known good tag maybe its slightly EV i duno... either way tho betting the turn with AQ into 2 is probably not a good play, and the line of barreling the turn and betting any river HU is most likely -EV

I also don't think theres any contradiction in the above logic that Oink alluded to in previous arguments for not betting the turn in COs shoes AND folding the river with JT in heros shoes
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