[Raxxmataxx]

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I'm not saying he shouldn't raise in this particular case. I'm saying that, under the right circumstances with the right mix of players, he would give away his hand if he raised 4th. Then he doesn't get paid off when his makes his flush.

[/ QUOTE ]Well yes, obviously there potentially are some circumstances where not raising is better. But those players certainly couldn't be described as "solid", as they give up hands where the pot is huge for very few bets.

Also, for your claim to be relevant those players would have to fold if he hit a third flush card, and this in a gigantic pot, *and* that they wouldn't do so if he just called?

What hand range would they put him on if he just called and called?

Especially if he did that and then suddenly raised when the third flush card hit. Someone weak-tight enough to get rid of two-pair when the third flush card hits in a huge pot should be about as weak-tight in that scenario, since that screams flush about as much.

Arguebly, calling and suddenly raising is even more indicative of a flush than calling and raising on 4th is.

The only way we get to pretend that suddenly raising a third flush card didn't help us is if we raise the first bet to begin with and keep betting all the way.