[kerze]

I'm pretty sure Ivey is a 17 or 18 handicap - he was chatting a couple of weeks ago on Full Tilt when we has single tabling and he said 17 or 18. I asked him about the up and down shot from the bunker they showed on PSIII and he said he was lucky. I am pretty sure it is two shots and not 3 because Hellmuth said something along the lines of you have to assume Phil will have 2 bad drives on some holes.