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imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x.

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agree, JJ+ seems quite likely

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agree w this

can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove?

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if his range is this vague that we're valuebluffing to ensure a showdown, we're getting owned

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what are you talking about its a straight bluff if he has JJ-QQ

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no way is it a bluff if he has QQ or JJ. Theres no chance of you folding a better hand than QQ to this action, and you shouldnt.