Thread: 20/40 QQ turn
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 QQ turn

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Check the turn - he may have beaten you with that card or possibly had you beat already. And your check may induce a bluff on the river from him. If you do bet the turn, I think you have to fold to his raise.

Edit to add: If he has JJ or something similar he has two outs and may very likely fold the turn bc the ace means you got there if you weren't already ahead. Your check will cause a laggy player to bet the river or at the very least check call, gaining you an extra bet.

Jeff

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Jeff--

Great post as usual. You're one of the (fewer and fewer) reasons I come to 2+2.

I think a lot of us, though, just don't get believed, and are getting checkraised by all sorts of stuff on the flop, and that stuff's not going to fold anywhere. My rough plan here would be:

-Against an unknown, check but don't love it, for the reasons you said.
-Against any of about 100 guys at various casinos who know me, bet. I can fold to a raise from a lot of them.
-If I slipped up and bet the turn when I shouldn't, I think you're right that it's a fold, if not the most comfortable one.

Mostly the issue here is that people's fighting-back-light range tends (for somewhat long collective-unconscious reasons I don't have time to explain here, and which you probably know) not to include hands with aces, so your hand is not much worse on the turn than it is on the flop. (Maybe things are different in this regard at Commerce.)

BTW, your articles are a real high point of the 2+2 magazine.

--Nate
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