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Old 12-01-2007, 09:22 PM
madnak madnak is offline
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Default Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.

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So you've given us your theory on the evil in nature (which the major religions agree with)

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Uh, the major religions believe that God created nature. Therefore, if this is true, then the major religions believe that God created evil. Thus, evil is God's choice, not man's choice. Which refutes the attempts at theodicy earlier in the thread. If I'm not mistaken, you don't believe God is omnibenevolent, or even particularly benevolent at all. So it might not concern you that God created evil, or that God made reality evil.

But I'd argue that the problem of evil is relevant for any compassionate person, and if evil was God's choice, then the standard responses to the problem are refuted. It also means that God (if God exists) cannot be omnix3.

We could get into questions about the so-called "sinful nature" of man, etc etc, but Benedict himself sometimes waves away the problem of evil with the fallacious "oh well that's man's problem, not God's" [censored].

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Which is what religion proposes to do, although they go to God for help, whereas you summon the giant within Anthony Robbins style.

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Of course, of course. The imaginary man-in-the-clouds has a proven track record, while human ingenuity has never gotten us anywhere.
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