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Regarding OP's idea that there is too much population for resources, there's an economist named Thomas Malthus who predicted that early in the 20th century and that's been proven wrong consistently.

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I did not mean to say there is not enough resource for the current population on a global scale. What I mean to say is:
- there isn't enough resource in certain locales
- that should give us an idea of the suffering that would occur if the current population growth rate continues.

I think everyone agrees that the growth rate can't continue like this forever. I don't think that point is debated anywhere. My point was that we have some say in how it will stop, not if it stops.