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Old 04-03-2007, 12:52 PM
LA_Price LA_Price is offline
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Default Re: Stars: A Day Without Shortstacking Ratholers

I have them all turning a profit in hands that I've played with them last month, which was mostly 6-max. Of course they wouldn't if people would just never give them action and do things like raise their blind a lot and fold to their reraises.

I think it's probably just a coincidence that they are all gone, and that they are all on vacation this week. I don't actually think they were bots either. One of the reasons being that they came out right after Rolf's book, which wouldn't have been enough time to write a "bot" program.

I actually don't think the short stacking is unethical at all, it just requires some strategy adjustments. The ratholing is a rather bad practice though. I think if stars is petitioned for anything it should be longer times before you can come back to the table and buyin for 20BB's. I do have to admit that the games have been much better for me without them.

Just for fun here's a hand I thought was funny.

POKERSTARS GAME #9023974650: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2007/03/21 - 22:32:30 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: evaFunk ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: joelmick ($282 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($782.75 in chips)
Seat 5: xoxol73 ($962.50 in chips)
Seat 6: blisterfish4 ($645.40 in chips)
Seat 7: howardsegel ($647 in chips)
Seat 8: Darwinism ($7065.95 in chips)
Seat 9: TimeOut71 ($307 in chips)
evaFunk: posts small blind $5
joelmick: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah As 5d 8h]
Hero: calls $10
xoxol73: folds
blisterfish4: folds
howardsegel: folds
Darwinism: folds
TimeOut71: folds
evaFunk: folds
joelmick: raises $25 to $35
Hero: raises $75 to $110
joelmick: calls $75
*** FLOP *** [6s 3s Td]
joelmick: checks
Hero: bets $222
joelmick: calls $172 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6s 3s Td] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [6s 3s Td Ts] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joelmick: shows [Ks Qs 9s Jd] (a flush, King high)
Hero: mucks hand
joelmick collected $566 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $569 | Rake $3
Board [6s 3s Td Ts 8s]
Seat 1: evaFunk (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: joelmick (big blind) showed [Ks Qs 9s Jd] and won ($566) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Hero mucked [Ah As 5d 8h]
Seat 5: xoxol73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: blisterfish4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: howardsegel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Darwinism folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: TimeOut71 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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