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Old 08-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Clamper13 Clamper13 is offline
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Default Re: Person to person transfers.

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i would advise to anyone not to do trades with this guy until the absolute situation is resolved. apparantly it is very easy to not only reverse transfers by pleading with support, but they can give anyone your personal information

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FWIW, my take on the situation.

Let's rewind to the previous thread.

Limitninja got involved in several transfers in which he did not send funds. Bad for him.

To his credit, he then stayed active in the forum, and has made progress towards repaying all he owes.

He recently got involved in a transaction with yellowsub wherein the sent funds were not promptly returned. LNJ got nervous with what he felt was an unseemly delay, and took recourse in the only way he felt he could.

AP reversed the transaction, and volunteered personal information on another player.

IMO, all three parties share some culpability.

<u>LNJ: Improperly traded.</u>
Sent the full amount to an untested partner. I could be wrong about the untested part, but I don't recall seeing yellowsub recently active here.

I'm not privy to the agreement, but it seems like it was not sufficiently communicated when the payment from yellowsub was to be expected.

In light of the communication breakdown, I find no fault in your attempt to reverse the transaction.

<u>yellowsub: Improperly traded.</u>
Unless you informed you partner beforehand to expect delays, you had an obligation to promptly complete your end of the transaction.

<u>AB: Yikes!</u>
Personal info. Unilateraly reverse a trade. Enough said.

<u>Unsolicted advice.</u>

LNJ:
Slow down. I don't doubt your sincerity in trying to quickly repay your debts. You haste almost cost you $1,000.

Had it not been for some questionable actions by AP, you might be $1K poorer right now.

Get references, trade in chunks, agree on the timing, and above all, be patient.

Your debtors are not doubt pleased by your efforts. I'm sure they would rather see that you do not get unnecessarily derailed.

yellowsub:
The best traders become that way by remaining vigilant. You can go a long way to assuage your future partners concerns by remaining in contact with them until the transaction is complete.

AP:
Never release personal info or rescind a transfer without first hearing from both parties. Never.
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