Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?
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2) When you refuse to gamble in spots like this, even the bad players notice and refuse to pay you off as much as they do others. they will still give you a bet here and there when dominated, but they certainly won't just pay off with the more marginal stuff others seem to make from them. The best players know how to become one of the guys, and in turn get paid off. He went on to say that's why he and others like him walk away from great games with a ton of chips, and others simply had marginal scores.
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I would not be surprised if Ray said something like this. I would be very surprised if this is still applicable to today's games. In the games I play in, people just don't give a rat's ass. They are like "okay, lets crack the tight guys aces" and 6 people coldcall anyway when I raise the first hand in 2 hours.
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Hi Surfdoc,
Your talking about preflop calls. The guys your talking about are making these preflop calls because they want to play. I'm talking about post flop. If you want to get paid off with some of your marginal hands and up, you need to make a point of not being known as the guy that refuses to gamble without the absolute best of it ever. That's Ray's point, and it's applicable in todays games.
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