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What should I say? My eyes are bleeding after reading your post ... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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MMMk... I will simplify... OP "read" in this situation isnt a "read" at all... it is an observation...if you cant clarify an exact mindset of the villian to go with an observation... you can not end up with a "read" with any pratical application... I cant find much use for many observations... because no 1 observation ever means the same thing when applied to every poker player... to finish this up I will quote my earlier post on why I believe 3 betting is the best play rather then ritorate what I have already said more then once... I do however believe that you can recognize that villian in this hand is highly likely to not be a very skilled poker player... Id go as far as to venture a guess that he isnt even aware of the standard lines for starting hand requirements even at a very basic level which is likely why he chooses to limp all the time... rather then bet for value... I think this fact is made rather obvious by the below quote from the OP... you cant limp 50% of hands and call every re-raise for VALUE... or anywhere near that frequency...

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He's been very active limping like 50% of the hands and calling every reraise. This is his 1st raise of the tournament.

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I do believe that 3-betting for value is the best option available to you (the fact that you force your opponent to give away information by taking this line just adds further value to it)... as a side note calling is not -EV but just not the best play IMO... you would need to tread carefully postflop because if you are not an experienced post flop player then you will probably get yourself into trouble far more often then you would like (most of the time costing you more then the 800 chip difference between re-raising the villian in this hand and smooth calling his 400 preflop) also you will often fold the best hand... we have been given no such read that suggests this villian is passive post flop or is uncapable of making a c-bet on the flop whether he has the best hand or not... coupled with the chance that you allow him to outdraw you when you have the best hand... the 3-bet is extremely obvious to me... any comments I made previously about AA and KK were made in regards to the times your opponent 4-bets you all in... If you believe that is his entire range for the 4-bet a fold in that spot would be rather obvious... I mean Jarid what are you re-raising with here... do you smooth call pre with AK???... is your raising range QQ+... or are you smooth calling all of the hands which likely have value against his range... obviously this player is prob not good enough to recognize a difference (considering he limps 50% of hands and he mini-raises) but isnt this exploitable on your part...

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