Thread: a quick thought
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: a quick thought

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Man naturally believes in universal morality.

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This is an interesting point. I'm not really sure what it's based on or what exactly you're implying though. Care to elaborate?

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Short answer:

Try to take the toy of a 3-year-old away and find out what the kid does and what it implies.

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I happen to disagree and here is why:

Put 1 year old with a toy in a room with a 2 year old with no toy (or his own toy for that matter, maybe even a whole pile of his owh toys lol) and see what happens and what THAT implies.

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It implies that people are, from the start, self-serving bastards that will step over the rights of another to aquire what they want. That they don't value anyone elses freedom/suffering so long as it doesn't either effect their own happiness or is right in front of them.
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It sounds like government to me. If this is truely human nature, why on earth would I want to grant someone (or a group of someone's) to be in charge of my toys? They already want to take them and I am supposed to want them to be in control of my toys and believe it's good for me?

The government is the Devil. lol

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Well, to literally play "Devil's" advocate...

You might decide you want someone to be in charge of your toys because you think it is the best way to protect them. My mom might not let me play with my toys if I don't eat my vegetables. But gee, that seems better than the threat of my neighbor taking my whole collection.

I don't think you can really disagree with that. Everyone trusts people to respect their assets (read: banks) when the other party is either benevolently or logistically trustworthy. So the only question here is whether or not government meets this criteria.

Certainly your answer is no. And I agree they don't meet it *as well* as the private market would. But let's be honest that it's just a matter of degree. Government's interest is to stay in business; or on an individual level, to be re-elected. So they have some built in constraints that make it tough for them to take our toys with no regard. In the absence of government I'll still inevitably trust my toys with other people.

Whether or not a government has anything to do with this is just a matter of degree. Trusting other people to respect your toys is not a stretch of the imagination. The only issue is that government doesn't do this quite as well as the free market.
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