[jfish]

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why never fold pf? it seems like you could change your opening range to something that was more optimal than one that included Axo.

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I don't follow; either A4o will show a profit when folded to us sb vs bb or it wont. I think it will. If others feel differently, they should fold.

Making our hand range optimal for that spot (not sure what this means) isn't a primary concern?

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well ok, you can open a x% of hands vs a good player. as you start opening more than x, you will encounter more resistance, and opening as wide will start to become suboptimal - right?

for example, when you say that Axo shows a profit, i feel that ATC shows the same profit because you make money when he folds pf or after a cbet really.

so why not try to optimize your range? there are really no advantages to opening A4o vs a tough player oop. it can make no big hands, when you do flop anything, its very obvious. i think that opening 93s is better than A4o, and i would much rather raise the former in this spot.