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Old 12-01-2007, 03:53 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: How do you like to play against maniacs like this??

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I wasn't trying to be snide at all. Sorry you took that way. You answered my question. However, I would want to play post flop with this guy and push on made hands of 99 - AA preflop.

I thought you were arguing to get it all in with AK. Suppose he flips QJ or 99. does a skilled player want to risk deep stacks on 60/40s? I don't. 4 betting thinking opps is a much different game then drunk maniacs.

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Let's think in terms of average return per hand.

AK vs. QJ, you are a 65:35 favorite. On 100BBs, that's a return of 30BBs.

No way is your post-flop edge good enough to *average* a 30BB return, and you'd be insane to pass up that edge. Sure he stacks off light, but he still has to flop SOMETHING to keep going.

Of course, if you could see his cards, you'd do things differently (take a cheap flop with AK vs. 99, get all in with AK vs. QJ, etc). But you can't do that. It's just ranges. And if his range is very wide for getting it in pre-flop, AK is a premium with an edge that you simply should not pass up. 77 does not have a huge edge vs. a wide range and you'd rather take a flop cheap.
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