[Beachman42]

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1st hand is a clear fold.

2nd hand I also fold fast and I like it.

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Stealing with ATC in EP very early, very deep is -eV.

2nd Hand - UUGHH. bottom 2 on this board is very scary (mostly beacuse I go busto so often with bottom 2). You gave a decent read on UTG, but no so much on the others. There are 18 cards you do not want to see. 75% of the time, I raise BIG here to get it heads up/see who's interested. You cannot price in all draws, but what will you do if crazy UTG comes over the top? While its still early, ~25% of the time I will call in position and re-evaluate on the turn. If a blank falls, I can evaluate the betting and hopefully raise or fold at that time. Bottom 2 on a coordinated board isn't the nuts.