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You are getting better than 3-1 pot odds preflop against a CO raise from a big stack on the bubble. I think folding preflop is pretty bad.

You can't let CO and button steal from you every hand because you are OOP. There are also ways to play OOP, and I am not sure it is that huge a disadvantage.

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Ok ok I admit that I wouldn't fold there in like a million years, but sometimes I wonder if more people should fold oop (myself included). Also being OOP is a HUGE disadvantage in my opinion. The antes are just too big though.

btw I really would never never PF, I just felt like getting philisophical. I do put a ton of value on position, probably more than most, but the immediate pot odds are just way too big to really consider folding IMO. We can just play some kind of completely boring postflop style this hand and it should be correct to call.

Also I'd call before reraising PF [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Basically ignore my entire first post.