[TNixon]

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I never said that a mini-raise will get him to fold an ace , you did .

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Yet again you fail miserably at reading comprehension, because I specifically said that a mini-raise is *never* going to get an ace to fold, and asked for your definition of "success".

If your definition included getting an ace to fold, then it was clearly off-base. (but if it didn't include getting an ace to fold, then it was very strangely phrased)

If "success" just meant getting value out of worse hands, then there are better options, which you do seem to realize.

So if we're saying the same thing, why do you insist on being a jackass about it?